Sony Boss Slams Microsoft

Sony is scared... and this proves it. Man this is truly a console war... and Sony is pretending to be cocky and mud slinging. Shows how threatened they actually are.

I completely agree. Let's take a real look at what they are saying. They have a big expensive box, that is late (they always denied that this generation would happen until 2007), hey have no clear online strategy, they couldn't even get GT4 (their Crown Jewel) online. They have a dodgy box, don't get me started on the controller, they missed out on personalisation, where is their User Interface? Where are their games (apart from impressive CG videos, that were made on PCs. All of their tech specs mean the same as the PS2, overhyped and unachieveable. Let's remember this from the PS2 launch:

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PlayStation 2, though, is claiming to be able to handle 50 times more 3-D image data than the Dreamcast, allowing it to create characters similar in appearance to those in the Walt Disney film "Toy Story."

Right, like that really happened. This is called FUD for reference (Fear uncertainty and doubt). They throw enough mud, some of it sticks, then everybody forgets, cos it's Sony. Bless them. Well, this time, Microsoft are in a bit better shape than Sega were with DC.....and I think they will make Sony pay.

Sites like Eurogamer (I expected better from them, bought their hyperbole without even questioning it, even though nothin was real at E3). I expect the FUD to get worse, and more bitter, because really, that's all they have. We should wait until the TGS and see what they show running on real hardware, and see their third party support, because apart from a few Jap studios, nobody has got anything running.....

Sony are scared, and with good reason, they have one hell of a battle on their hands, one that they just might lose.

Bring it on.......

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I completely agree. Let's take a real look at what they are saying. They have a big expensive box, that is late (they always denied that this generation would happen until 2007), hey have no clear online strategy, they couldn't even get GT4 (their Crown Jewel) online. They have a dodgy box, don't get me started on the controller, they missed out on personalisation, where is their User Interface? Where are their games (apart from impressive CG videos, that were made on PCs. All of their tech specs mean the same as the PS2, overhyped and unachieveable. Let's remember this from the PS2 launch:

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PlayStation 2, though, is claiming to be able to handle 50 times more 3-D image data than the Dreamcast, allowing it to create characters similar in appearance to those in the Walt Disney film "Toy Story."

Right, like that really happened. This is called FUD for reference (Fear uncertainty and doubt). They throw enough mud, some of it sticks, then everybody forgets, cos it's Sony. Bless them. Well, this time, Microsoft are in a bit better shape than Sega were with DC.....and I think they will make Sony pay. Unquote]

I agree with some things you are saying, I think Sony are worried by Microsoft. You are correct that Sony always claim much more than they deliver. Xbox live was far superior to the Sony effort, but for PS3, they are going to copy Xbox live. I think this is a good thing because it will show PS2 owners what they have been missing for the last few years. Trouble is, Xbox live will have evolved even further, so Sony will still be way behind.

There is another problem Sony face this time that they have not had to face before, and this will be the hardest to overcome. Can they afford to invest the amounts of money into something that for the first time, may not make enough return?
Before you think I am saying PS3 will not sell, this is not what I am saying, it will sell well.
But, for the first two or three years it will only be recouping money outlaid for the R & D to invent it. Sony need a 6 or 7 year cycle to get a good return. Microsoft will have Xbox3 out years in front of PS4, ensuring that Sony cannot refill the coffers.
Don't forget, Sony are loss making at present, something unheard of as MS.
It is going to be interesting, but remember that this is all good for us the consumer. We will get the benefit of better products and service...... and don't forget Nintendo.

See below. Damn double post and no way to delete.

Microsoft's biggest advantage is simple:

Xbox can afford to fail. It's a small drop in the ocean of their business. Sony are riding a lot on their precious Playstation brand, and when (not if) that collapses they need a new technological safetynet to keep their company up. They hope it is CELL. If it isn't, they may well have killed off their own company.

It's also funny how this "non-threat" is getting the praise of developers, and PS3 is mentioned in the same way you mention your old stereo after upgrade.

at first, i was rather dissapointed with E3 this year... havign been my first trip there, i hardly got to see anything insanely exciting... but i chalked that up to my inability to be in multiple places as once... i figured "once i get home, ill download videos of all those cool things i coudlnt see in person or just missed" but then i got home and it turned out, i hadnt missed much... but now... as the dust clears and the reality of what was shown has sunk in... the one redeeming factor of this E3 has shown through... it seems to have shut the PS fan boys up a bit, taken em down a peg or two, and that always makes me smile

:) <--- like that (but much more handsome!)

i remeber 6 months ago i couldnt mention the words xbox or Microsoft without somebody bashing it as a crap filled over glorified halo arcade and claiming MS coudl never make anythign worth while... well here they are... with a s**t ton of dev support... tons of games (some really exciting) set for at or around launch, with a ton more in the pipeline... and they even claim to have comparable if not better specs than sonys forth comming machine whcih wont be out for at least 3-6 months after the 360 hits! (not that i believe th spec thing persay, but its a ballsy claim)

and where, might you ask, are the sony boys? sitting at home ... playing god of war again.... and again... and preordering katamari two... and pretending this whole E3 thing never happened.

sony are fools if they actually doubt M$ and if they think there little hype spreading nut job of a CEO can out shout Bill and the gaing, they are sadly mistaken.

you can just taste the "ps3 sell out on first day.... cause they only managed to make 50 of the damn things in time for launch" headlines now.

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Sony's Spidey-sense is off the charts, I think. It seems as though they can't go one week without attacking the other systems, while offering nothing on their own.

A true coup de grace for MS would be either a bundled 360 + Halo 3, or a price drop, a few days before the ps3 launch. I doubt it would happen, as it may only be 6 months after the 360's launch, but it sure would be awesome.

Especially since I'm one of the people to wait for a price drop, or Halo 3, before I buy a 360 ;)

It's no news that all these guys (Kutaragi, Allard, etc) are absolute joke. Nothing they say should be taken literally and seriously. Of course both Microsoft and Sony are worried. Only a fool would not recognise the growing popularity of the Xbox brand both in Europe and North America. And only another fool would think It would be easy to surpass Sony in any market.

These guys may be joke, but they are no fools. Sony knows that they're not competing with the Dreamcast this time, and Microsoft knows exactly how hard it will be to top the best selling console brand of all time. The thing is : It's these guys' job to influence the idiot consumer into believing that their product is the only thing worth buying, even if, for that end, bashing/exaggerating/lying are involved.

Now, leaving all the hype about PS3 and Xbox 360 aside and talking from a purely technical standpoint (I'm not talking about game genres, originality or gameplay here, just graphics since it's the only aspect of the games that I've seen), 85% of the so called "next gen" games I've seen actual-gameplay or "in-game" videos of (those would be Xbox 360 games), just don't look very "next gen" to me at all. Hell, what's the point of a ridiculously powerful GPU if the games that are being shown look equal or just slightly better than Riddick or Resident Evil 4?! I understand that Microsoft said their final kits would be more powerful, and the games will look better; we'll just have to wait and see about that. So far, I'm not impressed.

You can call me too optimistic, but what I was truly expecting from these two specific consoles ( performance-wise) was really something like what was seen in the Killzone video, which might or might not be "real time" (note : those were my expectations way before the PS3's and X360's announcements). Will Sony be able to deliver such high quality graphics in an actual, smooth gameplay experience, or will the "in game" graphics be equal or only slightly better than what we have on current gen systems that are "15 to 30" times inferior to the Xbox 360 and PS3? We'll see about that in the coming months.

Now, when Nintendo says that the Revolution will be only 3-5 times more powerful than the Gamecube (the system for which Resident Evil 4 was developed), everybody laughs at them! At this point, I really wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo were the ones laughing in the end.

I can't see any one console build up a lead like the ps2 did, and for sony it will be the first time they've had to fight on 2 fronts.Something that Nintendo have done for a long time now.
I still don't think Sony know what they are doing with the psp. I thought e3 would have answered my questions about it but no...(and that's another story I think...)
I also think that sony are going to need to come up with the system selling games by themselves rather than relying on third party stuff like they have done on the last 2 consoles. Microsoft look to have a lot of games in the pipeline for the 360 and they have some VERY talented studios under their wing now all working on exclusives for them and their whole package from console to controller to software to online all looks pretty solid to me.

Nintendo too look to have a good idea of where they are going what with their ds online plans and what they've so far revealed about revolution. They are also pretty smart in farming out franchises to other developers. I doubt they could support 3 systems on their own otherwise.

It all leaves Sony in a tricky situation because if they aren't number 1 and they have a system that is difficult to program for (which it may or may not be, but compared to the others) and also have poor software sales on the psp, then they surely won't be getting the full suport from the big third party companies. They won't be able to do a resident evil 4 and poach a key title from a rival

prolly will have one considering that Halo 3 has already been outed as planned to be released opposite the PS3...Mebbe an LE edition with a faceplate or some other bling...

Truthfully the thing that has me most excited in a carefully cynical way is the PS3s dual displays. In True High Sony Fashion I'm sure the feature will be inculded intermittently in a few launch generation titles to be then unsupported in subsequent generations of software, ultimately to be dropped from the hardware when they release the smaller, PSThree... Baka Sony, Make Roi Angry

You've hit the nail on the head. I've never heard a company sound so paranoid before.

One supreme advantage that MS has is that they can dictate the price for both console and games. Sony's system is going to be incredibly expensive to manufacture and if Microsoft sells their console for $300 and games for $50 then it will be a crippling blow to them. Sony CAN'T sell there games that cheap for Killzone quality and they CAN'T sell there console cheap due to tons of expensive parts involved.

Microsoft is smart and I have to imagine that they know price will matter especially when games won't be that much better on PS3 beyond a visual level. Will consumers pay more for everything just for a little bit more eye candy? Everyone is getting on Microsoft's case for being an HD system... yet blue-ray will greatly effect the prices of PS3 games.

You will most likely find BluRay will not be the format used in PS3. They are already backtracking on the inclusion of the Hard disk 'out of the box'. BluRay disks are not solid, but floppy and encased in a caddy. hence not as robust. Sony are already holding talks with other manufacturers with regard to support for a common new DVD format, and its not BluRay. They might yet dump it.

“Microsoft is trailing behind us and is not a threat,"

Of course Sony see Microsoft as a threat otherwise they wouldnt be saying this, Microsoft is a massive threat to Sony and could give them a massive kick up the arse.

If Sony lose in the next generation it would be their own fault, I mean they have already delayed the psp launch so many times nintendo have taken the lead.

Sony seriously need to get their act together, admittedly i am a sony fanboy but even i an pi*sed off at Sony at present for the whole psp fiasco and I am surprised at Sony for attacking Microsoft directly, even I have to admit the Xbox 360 looks good - i know ive slagged it off in the past but it looks as though Microsoft have got it right, alough i will be buying PS3.

Its kinda of a strange situations where Sony fanboys are either super charged by the news or dropping off. Might I add dropping off BECAUSE of Sony's decisions and not due to the 360 or revolution looking or sounding better... I have never seen this and although the numbers for Sony support aren't dramtically dropping they are dropping none the less.

Meanwhile many hardcore Sony fanboys have been giving into temptation and actually purchasing an X-Box and seeing their X-Box library quickly catching up to their PS2 library(a few fanboys I know in real life). No one who isn't jaded or super picky about games has picke up Halo, Ninja Gaiden, and Riddick and been dissapointed. OK maybe Ninja Gaiden cuz its hard as f**k. lol